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The wheel on Palantir: big premiums, big moves, and the sizing problem
Palantir's options pay large premiums because the stock makes large moves, up and down. For a wheel seller, that cuts both ways: a fall can leave you holding shares far below your strike, and a fast rebound can call them away before you've recovered. Here's a made-up cycle where both happen.
What Palantir is like for a wheel seller
Palantir Technologies (PLTR) sells data and software platforms to governments and companies. It joined the S&P 500 in 2024. For the wheel strategy, what stands out:
- High Implied volatility. The stock has made very large moves in both directions, and its options are priced for more.
- No dividend. Nothing arrives while you hold assigned shares.
- Earnings gaps. Quarterly reports can move it sharply overnight.
- Heavy retail interest and busy options. Spreads are usually workable at common strikes; check yours.
- A share price that has climbed a long way in recent years, so one contract ties up far more than it did when the stock was a small-account favourite. Check today's price.
Nothing on this page is a recommendation. Palantir is here because people search for it, and because it shows what high volatility does to every step of the wheel.
The sizing problem
On a high-IV stock, the question isn't just "can I afford 100 shares?" It's "can I afford what a normal bad month does to 100 shares?"
Say a hypothetical account holds $30,000 and caps any one stock at 20%, or $6,000. A $135 put ties up $13,500. The sizing rule gives zero contracts. Stretching the cap to fit means one stock carries 45% of the account, on a name known for big swings. Sizing math, the full obligation rule has the formula.
Account note: in Canada, covered calls are widely allowed in a TFSA or RRSP, while cash-secured puts depend on the broker. Options permissions differ by broker, so check yours.
A cycle that loses twice (an illustration, not a trade idea)
These numbers belong to a made-up high-volatility software stock, XYZ. They are not Palantir's prices. Assume you stretched the cap and sold one contract in that $30,000 account.
Step 1: the put. XYZ trades at $150. You sell a 30-day $135 put for $6.00 and collect $600. Your broker sets aside $13,500.
Step 2: the fall. A sector sell-off and a soft report knock XYZ down about a third. It closes expiry day at $100. You're assigned at $135. Running cost: $129.
| Item | Amount |
|---|---|
| Put premium | +$600 |
| Shares: bought at $135, now $100 | −$3,500 |
| Where you stand | −$2,900 (about −10% of the account) |
Step 3: the call. A $135 call at this point pays about $0.50, which feels like nothing. So you sell a 30-day $110 call for $3.00 and collect $300. That strike is $25 below what you paid.
Step 4: the snap-back. XYZ rallies hard and ends the month at $160. Your shares are called away at $110.
| Item | Amount |
|---|---|
| Put premium | +$600 |
| Call premium | +$300 |
| Shares: bought at $135, sold at $110 | −$2,500 |
| Final result | −$1,600 |
The stock ended the cycle above where you started, at $160. You ended $1,600 down. A plain shareholder who bought at $150 would be up $1,000. That's a math example, not a promise.
Why this happens on high-IV stocks
The wheel works best when a stock drifts. A stock that swings hard puts you on the wrong side twice:
- On the way down, the put's premium is small next to the fall. A $6 premium on a $35 drop covers less than a fifth.
- On the way back up, calls above your cost pay little, so it's tempting to sell lower. Then a fast rebound calls you away at a loss. The strike-below-cost trap covers this in detail.
| Path after assignment at $135, XYZ at $100 | Next month XYZ at $90 | Next month XYZ at $160 |
|---|---|---|
| Sell a $135 call for $0.50 | Keep shares: −$3,850 on paper | Called at $135: +$650 |
| Sell a $110 call for $3.00 | Keep shares: −$3,600 on paper | Called at $110: −$1,600 |
| Sell the shares at $100 | −$2,900 locked in | −$2,900 locked in |
Each row counts the $600 put premium plus that row's call premium. No row wins in both columns. On a stock that can swing this far in a few weeks, you're choosing which surprise you'd rather have.
The rule for next time
- Let the sizing rule say no. If one contract breaks your cap, the answer is zero, however good the premium looks.
- Test against a big drop. On a high-IV stock, check the loss at −40%, not just −20%.
- Decide your call rule before assignment. Will you sell below your cost? Write it down while you're calm.
- Keep high-IV names a small slice of the book. High-IV vs low-IV stocks for selling compares the two.
- Check earnings first. A report inside the expiry is a big part of that premium.
In plain words: on a stock that swings hard, the premium is fair pay for the swing. The wheel can lose on the drop and again on the rebound.
Questions
Is Palantir a good stock for the wheel?
It pays high premiums because it moves a lot, has no dividend and can gap on earnings. That suits few accounts. Whether it suits you depends on your size and whether you'd hold it through a big drop. Nothing here is a recommendation.
How much money do I need to wheel Palantir?
The put strike × 100. After the stock's rise in recent years, that's a large amount per contract. Check today's price, then check it against your cap per stock.
Why did I lose money on the wheel when the stock went up?
Usually because you were assigned higher, then sold a call below your cost and were called away on a rebound. You locked in the share loss while the stock kept going.
Should I sell weekly options on a volatile stock like this?
Weekly options on a high-IV stock react very fast to moves. Many sellers prefer 30 to 45 days and smaller size on names like this. See gamma risk for option sellers.
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