CHF/JPY explained: when two safe havens meet
The franc and the yen are both places money runs to in a scare. So what does CHF/JPY do when everyone is scared? Less than you'd guess, and that's the lesson.
At a glance
| CHF/JPY | |
|---|---|
| What it is | How many Japanese yen one Swiss franc buys |
| Pip size | 0.01 |
| One pip is worth | ¥1,000 per standard lot. In US dollars it depends on USD/JPY |
| Busiest hours (ET) | About 3 am – noon, plus Tokyo hours for the yen side |
| What moves it most | The rate gap between the SNB and the Bank of Japan, central-bank surprises |
| Trading hours | Sunday ~5 pm ET to Friday 5 pm ET |
Pip math, as an example. ¥1,000 per standard lot is about $6.67 if USD/JPY were at 150. A math example, not a forecast. The pip value calculator works it out live.
What moves it
- The rate gap. Both Switzerland and Japan have had some of the lowest interest rates in the world. Small changes in which one is "less low" can move this pair.
- The SNB. 4 meetings a year, decisions at 9:30 am Zurich time (usually 3:30 am ET). The SNB has stepped into currency markets before to slow a strong franc.
- The Bank of Japan. 8 meetings a year, usually announced in the US late evening. It has been moving slowly away from its rock-bottom rates since 2024.
- Japan stepping in. When the yen weakens fast, Japan's finance ministry can buy yen, as in 2022 and 2024. That moves every yen pair.
- Which haven wins. In some scares money favours the yen; in others, especially European ones, the franc. That changes from event to event.
When it's busiest
Swiss trading is in European hours, from about 3 am ET. Japanese trading is in Tokyo hours, about 7 pm to 4 am ET. The two overlap only briefly, so neither home market is fully awake for long at the same time. Many traders watch it in the London morning.
Japan has no daylight saving, and Switzerland changes on European dates. Check a live clock like our market hours tool in late March and late October.
Its personality
- Less trading than either parent pair. Spreads are usually wider than on USD/JPY or USD/CHF, especially in quiet hours.
- Long trends from rate stories. When one bank changes course, the pair can drift one way for a long time.
- Odd reactions to fear. Because both sides are havens, a scare may move it a lot, a little, or either way.
Don't assume the "safe" move. A rule like "in a scare, buy the yen" doesn't map cleanly here. The other side runs to safety too. Read the chart, not the headline.
Reading it with our method
- Daily and weekly first. Rate-driven trends show best on the bigger charts. Mark the last places price turned around.
- Check if it's a trend at all. Our guide on how to identify a trend has the higher-highs test.
- Body close only. Wide spreads and thin hours make tails common.
- Size from the stop using the dollar value of the pip, with the lot size calculator. Keep risk near 1%.
Common mistakes
- Ignoring the spread. On a less-traded cross, the cost can be a big share of a small target.
- Trading the quiet gap between Tokyo's close and London's open.
- Forgetting the SNB calendar. Only 4 meetings, easy to miss.
- Guessing the haven winner in a scare instead of waiting for the chart.
Questions
Are the Swiss franc and yen both safe havens?
Both are often seen that way, because Switzerland and Japan have stable systems and money tends to move into them in a scare. Which one gains more changes from event to event.
What moves CHF/JPY?
Mainly the difference between Swiss and Japanese interest rates, plus surprises from the SNB, the Bank of Japan or Japan's finance ministry.
How much is a pip on CHF/JPY?
¥1,000 per standard lot. In US dollars that's ¥1,000 divided by the USD/JPY price.
Why are spreads wider on CHF/JPY?
Less money trades in it than in the big dollar pairs, so there are fewer buyers and sellers at any moment.
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